(HBO) Pacquiao vs. Bradley, Alvarez vs. Mosley (June 9)

**Jack1000** · February 6th, 2012, 12:51 PM

Story here:

Pacquiao-Bradley agree to fight on June 9 | RingTV-

I pick Manny by UD with scores of 115-113 (twice) and an unrealistic 118-110. Being Arum's cash cow, he will get close rounds, and there will be many close rounds in this fight. I wonder how much of the Marquez strategies Tim could use to trouble Manny?

Jack

**Sponsor** · February 6th, 2012 12:51 PM

**Rebel** · February 6th, 2012, 01:17 PM

This could be Pac vs. Agapito Sanchez all over again. Provided Bradley gets a fair shake, I see him upsetting Pac via SD.

**Valdosta** · February 6th, 2012, 06:34 PM

Pac against Sanchez? Pac Losses the first couple of rounds, wins the next 4 and gets robbed? The Pacquiao-Sanchez decision was horrible especially considering Sanchez had 2 points taken as well.

**TysonFan** · February 6th, 2012, 08:00 PM

Bradley's best win was over Lamont Peterson.. Still can't discount Bradley cause he's dedicated and a good boxer. Pacquiao wins by UD.

**davemurphy** · February 6th, 2012, 09:38 PM

I can see Manny having some real problems here, especially with Bradley's "third fist" (his head). I'm going with Pac since I'm assuming it'll be Las Vegas where Top Rank cash cows usually get a very big benefit of a doubt on anything close, but a Bradley upset wouldn't surprise the way Pacquiao looked against JMM in his last fight.

**joey83** · February 7th, 2012, 01:20 AM

Bradley probably wins a close fight but theres no way the judges give him the win, pac by UD.

**O-Dogg33** · February 7th, 2012, 06:54 AM

I don't see this going 12 rds. They are going to clash heads, Pac's eye will be cut badly and it will go to the cards early. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened before 4 rds and it being ruled a no-contest. There is a reason nobody wants to Bradley fight. Great guy, undefeated, talented but stylistically a walking catastrophe waiting to happen.

**Mark G** · February 7th, 2012, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by O-Dogg33

I don't see this going 12 rds. They are going to clash heads, Pac's eye will be cut badly and it will go to the cards early. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened before 4 rds and it being ruled a no-contest. There is a reason nobody wants to Bradley fight. Great guy, undefeated, talented but stylistically a walking catastrophe waiting to happen.

Very true, I hope that this head but thing doesn't happen, I want Pacquiao to catch him with some big punches and get him out of there.

**Rebel** · February 7th, 2012, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Valdosta

Pac against Sanchez? Pac Losses the first couple of rounds, wins the next 4 and gets robbed? The Pacquiao-Sanchez decision was horrible especially considering Sanchez had 2 points taken as well.

I was referring more to headbutt city with Pac not looking great.

**Rebel** · February 7th, 2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by O-Dogg33

I don't see this going 12 rds. They are going to clash heads, Pac's eye will be cut badly and it will go to the cards early.

That's what I'm afraid of as well. Let's hope we're wrong.

**O-Dogg33** · February 7th, 2012, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rebel

That's what I'm afraid of as well. Let's hope we're wrong.

Yeah I hate to be mr. pessimistic but boxing does that to you sometimes. I'll have low expectations going in and hope to be proved wrong. On the bright side at least Bradley is in his prime, undefeated, and the best in his division (140). I don't think fighting at 147 will be any advantage to Pacquiao. I suspect they'll weigh about the same come fight night.

**Rebel** · February 7th, 2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by O-Dogg33

Yeah I hate to be mr. pessimistic but boxing does that to you sometimes. I'll have low expectations going in and hope to be proved wrong. On the bright side at least Bradley is in his prime, undefeated, and the best in his division (140). I don't think fighting at 147 will be any advantage to Pacquiao. I suspect they'll weigh about the same come fight night.

It's also an intriguing bout because it'll mark the first time Pac faces a prime African-American fighter.

**Mark G** · February 7th, 2012, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rebel

It's also an intriguing bout because it'll mark the first time Pac faces a prime African-American fighter.

The Mexican, come to your opponent, style happens to be well suited for Pacquiao. Runners, boxers, and counterpunchers may give him difficulties. I still he smashes Bradley though!

**Rebel** · February 7th, 2012, 01:33 PM

I would be shocked if Pac smashed Bradley at this point. IMO, Bradley is a more dangerous opponent than JMM.

**Joe King** · February 7th, 2012, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Rebel

I would be shocked if Pac smashed Bradley at this point. IMO, Bradley is a more dangerous opponent than JMM.

It's a much closer fight than people are making it out to be.

**Valdosta** · February 8th, 2012, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by Rebel

I was referring more to headbutt city with Pac not looking great.

I prefer to look at the whole fight. Sanchez had 2 good rounds and that was it.

**HOMICIDE** · February 8th, 2012, 07:26 AM

...interesting to say the least, I will join the rest of the group and say that the cut to end the fight is VERY POSSIBLE but if and that is a BIG IF the fight goes 12 I will take the younger and hungrier Bradley to UD the aging PAC-man...it will be ugly...it will be rough...but it will be one sided...write it down, Bradley UD scores of 116-112, 115-113, 116-111...

**Rebel** · February 9th, 2012, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Valdosta

I prefer to look at the whole fight. Sanchez had 2 good rounds and that was it.

It's been awhile, but I thought Pac struggled a bit more than that.

Who do you think wins Pac/Bradley?

**Mark G** · February 9th, 2012, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rebel

It's been awhile, but I thought Pac struggled a bit more than that.

Who do you think wins Pac/Bradley?

I remember watching the fight and hoping that Pacquiao would knock the hell out of that dirty bastard Sanchez, but Sanchez made him look like shit. It seemed like a close fight, though I didn't keep a scorecard.

**Valdosta** · February 9th, 2012, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rebel

It's been awhile, but I thought Pac struggled a bit more than that.

Who do you think wins Pac/Bradley?

I thought Pacquaio won that 1 clearly. Remember Sanchez had 2 points taken away as well and there was no way in hell Sanchez won 4 out of 6 rounds. Not sure who wins Pac-Bradley, there's nothing to go by. I have never seen him fight someone like Bradley.

**joey83** · February 9th, 2012, 07:50 PM

Pac wins for sure even though really its gonna be a bradley win, do you really think arum will let his main man lose before fighting mayweather? I say no way in hell he does, he will have all the judges in his pocket giving pac round after round, thats if he hasnt paid off bradley to lose the fight and promise him once pac is retired he will do the same for him.

**Rebel** · February 9th, 2012, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by joey83

Pac wins for sure even though really its gonna be a bradley win, do you really think arum will let his main man lose before fighting mayweather? I say no way in hell he does, he will have all the judges in his pocket giving pac round after round, thats if he hasnt paid off bradley to lose the fight and promise him once pac is retired he will do the same for him.

Arum knows Pac's time is running out so why wouldn't he be open to creating a brand new star?

**joey83** · February 9th, 2012, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Rebel

Arum knows Pac's time is running out so why wouldn't he be open to creating a brand new star?

Firstly because arum is way to money hungry to pass up on pac vs mayweather millions, when pac isnt good enough to win on his own which is now thats when arum will throw him in with floyd for 1 last mega payday, secondly bradey will never be a star with his fighting style and personaity so arum wont go to him im sure, lastly if he doesnt want pac and floyd to fight he will get someone else from top rank to beat pac and this fight is all just to show that manny did beat a young prime african american fighter to enhance his phoney reputation.

**Lefthooker** · February 10th, 2012, 05:40 AM

I believe the slippage of Pac will be VERY evident in this fight. Manny will have lots of problems and will win a close, disputed decision.
BTW to all of us who were sitting on the edge of our proverbial seats awaiting Mayweather-Pac, that ship has sailed for me.
I simply don't see that fight being competitive any more.
When it was originally slated (before the bruhaha about PED testing) it would have been a battle royal.
That was then, this is now.
Manny will be at a disadvantage in EVERY department ( including power IMO).
This is another missed opportunity that professional boxing never seems to tire of.
If the fight does happen, it will be just a shadow of what it would have been.

**Rebel** · February 10th, 2012, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by joey83

Firstly because arum is way to money hungry to pass up on pac vs mayweather millions, when pac isnt good enough to win on his own which is now thats when arum will throw him in with floyd for 1 last mega payday, secondly bradey will never be a star with his fighting style and personaity so arum wont go to him im sure, lastly if he doesnt want pac and floyd to fight he will get someone else from top rank to beat pac and this fight is all just to show that manny did beat a young prime african american fighter to enhance his phoney reputation.

If Arum really wanted to make the Mayweather fight he would've put it together by now. He's promoted Floyd as well. He knows Pac can't beat him. Therefore, he'd rather have one of his own defeat Pacquiao. That way it elevates that fighter's popularity and earning power. If Pac loses to Bradley, it's not like Arum still can't make the Mayweather fight. He'll also be able to make Mayweather/Bradley, a "Someone's 0 has to go" promotion. Or he can continue to avoid Mayweather while Bradley racks up wins against fighters from his stable.

**Joe King** · February 10th, 2012, 04:23 PM

5 million dollar purse for Bradley.

**Mark G** · February 10th, 2012, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rebel

If Arum really wanted to make the Mayweather fight he would've put it together by now. He's promoted Floyd as well. He knows Pac can't beat him. Therefore, he'd rather have one of his own defeat Pacquiao. That way it elevates that fighter's popularity and earning power. If Pac loses to Bradley, it's not like Arum still can't make the Mayweather fight. He'll also be able to make Mayweather/Bradley, a "Someone's 0 has to go" promotion. Or he can continue to avoid Mayweather while Bradley racks up wins against fighters from his stable.

That might be the case, thats a pretty smart strategy from Arum from a business point of view.

**Mexican Eagle** · February 12th, 2012, 02:11 AM

Another fixed fight with crooked judges to give this filipino ape more money for his politcal campaign. No thank you, save your money boycott Toprank and the crooked judges in vegas.

**Valdosta** · February 12th, 2012, 07:27 PM

Should be a good fight, I can't wait.

**El tanke** · February 13th, 2012, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Mexican Eagle

Another fixed fight with crooked judges to give this filipino ape more money for his politcal campaign. No thank you, save your money boycott Toprank and the crooked judges in vegas.

I will start boycotting top rank and bob arum and any fight that includes Chavez jr and Canelo Alvarez. Thats a bunch of shit, I would pay for a fight like Donaire vs Mares or Ward vs Martinez.

Not Canelo vs Mosley or Chavez jr vs some bum. Ill watch the fights, but not a dime of mine will go to those thieves.