(HBO PPV) Cotto vs. Margarito II (Dec. 3, 9PM ET/6PM PT)

**Rebel** · July 6th, 2011, 11:28 AM

The rematch is signed for December 3rd.

Who wins the rematch, Cotto or Margarito?

**Sponsor** · July 6th, 2011 11:28 AM

**Joe King** · July 6th, 2011, 11:46 AM

Hopefully Cotto wins brutally.

**Rabid Kimba** · July 6th, 2011, 01:20 PM

Draw...both are washed up...lol.

**Mark G** · July 6th, 2011, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rebel

The rematch is signed for December 3rd.

Who wins the rematch, Cotto or Margarito?

I definitely care. They might not be at the top of the division at this point, but they are FAR from irrelavent. The revenge factor really makes this one interesting!

There should be some good action in this one. Poor Cotto, when he's not fighitng Margarito, he's fighting suspected dopers. He's the only guy fighting fair!

**O-Dogg33** · July 7th, 2011, 08:30 AM

Yeah I definitely care about this fight. I've adopted Cotto in recent years as one of my favorite fighters. As much as I would love to go to Vegas to see this I think this fight belongs in New York or Puerto Rico. It's only right for Cotto to have the crowd behind him. It would suck if they went to Vegas and that fucking cheater had all the fan support.

I might need to save up and pop my NYC cherry for this one if it does go to Madison Square Garden.

**Rebel** · July 7th, 2011, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by O-Dogg33

Yeah I definitely care about this fight. I've adopted Cotto in recent years as one of my favorite fighters. As much as I would love to go to Vegas to see this I think this fight belongs in New York or Puerto Rico. It's only right for Cotto to have the crowd behind him. It would suck if they went to Vegas and that fucking cheater had all the fan support.

I might need to save up and pop my NYC cherry for this one if it does go to Madison Square Garden.

Off topic, I bet you and your bro are pumped over Ortiz' upset victory last Saturday, eh?

**davemurphy** · July 7th, 2011, 10:48 AM

I think everyone will be rooting for a Cotto victory and I suppose it does carry a bit of interest because of the first fight controversy, but so much has happened since then and I'm also less than thrilled that Margarito is getting another major payday when IMO he shouldn't even be allowed a License. Margarito's facial damage by way of Pacquiao was pretty severe, let's see if he's able to avoid getting busted up, but for me I'd have preferred to see Miguel in with one of the other elite fighters. Arum is taking the "in house" nonsense too far, there better be one hell of an undercard for this.....

**O-Dogg33** · July 7th, 2011, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Rebel

Off topic, I bet you and your bro are pumped over Ortiz' upset victory last Saturday, eh?

Bro can you believe we missed it because we took our families to Disneyland?! haha His first victory in half a decade and we miss it! But we were still pumped I thought people were fucking with me when they texted me the news!

**Rebel** · July 7th, 2011, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by O-Dogg33

Bro can you believe we missed it because we took our families to Disneyland?! haha His first victory in half a decade and we miss it! But we were still pumped I thought people were fucking with me when they texted me the news!

You'll have to YouTube it if it's up. Tito busted out with his trademark "Grave Digger" after he won. haha

**TysonFan** · July 7th, 2011, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Rabid Kimba

Draw...both are washed up...lol.

That's what i'm thinking as well. The recent beating Margacheato took from Pacquiao should leave them both on a even keel.

**Rebel** · July 7th, 2011, 04:41 PM

I can't recall the last time I rooted for a Puerto Rican over a Mexican fighter. This will be one of those rare times. haha That said, my mind says Margacheato will come through late again. I really hope I'm wrong.

**mex fighter** · July 7th, 2011, 08:12 PM

second time i root for a fucking rican over a meskin.

coincidentally, the first time as santos vs margaTITO.

fuck him!

**Victor** · July 8th, 2011, 11:20 AM

I also agree that the revenge factor makes the fight interesting. Too bad about Cotto that first time. He's looked like damaged goods for a while now.

**Mark G** · July 8th, 2011, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Victor

I also agree that the revenge factor makes the fight interesting. Too bad about Cotto that first time. He's looked like damaged goods for a while now.

He still managed to beat Yuri Foreman though! That fight was post Margarito and Pacquiao. Not withstanding Foreman's own version of "my pinkie toe was hurting."

**BKING** · July 9th, 2011, 09:37 PM

I'm definitely rooting for Cotto in this fight. I wanna see him get the revenge. I think it's a winnable fight for him, after the two beatings Margarito has taken. Cotto has at least been a little more active. In the first fight, Cotto used up a lot of energy moving around the ring too much and firing shots to the head. Cotto needs to keep the fight in the center of the ring, but stand his ground a little more and attack Margarito's body EARLY and OFTEN. He's got to stand his ground, box when he needs to, bang when he needs to, and attack that body. If he moves around the ring too much, he's going to give Margarito confidence.

**Ron Champ Miller** · September 3rd, 2011, 09:06 PM

bumping this as initially I was going to bet cotto...but after doing some handicapping and talking to my boxing bros, LOL, I think margarito might be the right side..whether or not his gloves were loaded, i'm not sure cotto can keep him off again...

the only thing i wonder is if perhaps pac might have ruined him

at +160, might be worth a shot...cotto seems to have slowed down...i'm not sure about revenge, so long after the fact..also, maybe cotto has flashbacks of the first azz kicking and it mentally messes with him..

I see a repeat of the first fight....still a few months out

i'm not really happy about this bout, but there might be opportunity to make a few bucks

**El tanke** · September 4th, 2011, 07:25 PM

Im going for Cotto, I cant stand cheaters and Margarito is nothing more than a piece of shit cheater. I leave the cheering for cheaters to guys like Kinich, I would rather root for the rican(Cotto).
I hope Cotto not only wins, I hope he beats him up, and makes the cheater retire from boxing.

**Mark G** · September 4th, 2011, 08:53 PM

Cotto is one of the fighters who has fought clean, I think. He's fought some of the biggest cheaters in boxing.

**El tanke** · September 4th, 2011, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mark G

Cotto is one of the fighters who has fought clean, I think. He's fought some of the biggest cheaters in boxing.

He is a class act, and I got a lot of respect for him.

**O-Dogg33** · September 5th, 2011, 08:17 PM

I think if you take a look at how they both did against Pacquiao you have to lean toward Cotto. The Pac-Cotto fight was a very intense fight for the first 4 rounds until Pac found his groove. You can argue that Pac put it on Cotto worse than Margarito too but at least Cotto didn't have a career threatening injury like Margarito sustained. Who knows how that affects Margarito. Margarito got to come in at a more comfortable weight against Pac also, they made Cotto come in at 145.

**El tanke** · September 5th, 2011, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by O-Dogg33

I think if you take a look at how they both did against Pacquiao you have to lean toward Cotto. The Pac-Cotto fight was a very intense fight for the first 4 rounds until Pac found his groove. You can argue that Pac put it on Cotto worse than Margarito too but at least Cotto didn't have a career threatening injury like Margarito sustained. Who knows how that affects Margarito. Margarito got to come in at a more comfortable weight against Pac also, they made Cotto come in at 145.

I gotta agree, Cotto was doing very well. It looked as if he was gonna handle Pac easily, until he was caught. Margarito was just never in the fight, and like you said he sustained that injury, and we dont know how that will affect him.

**Rebel** · September 19th, 2011, 02:53 PM

Looks like Pacquiao beat Margarito so badly, now he's trying to mimick his style.

**Joe King** · September 19th, 2011, 03:45 PM

I want Cotto to use loaded gloves.

**K.I.P.** · September 19th, 2011, 06:20 PM

Like that great action hero that goes by the name of John McClaine once said: "Who gives a FUCK?"

Nahh...the only interesting thing would be who will get to expose Canelo...

...and the morbid interest on what else will Marga-cheato-dorito will inject, ingest or wear to the fight.

Other than that... ???

My O

**K.I.P.** · September 19th, 2011, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Joe King

I want Cotto to use loaded gloves.

I think boxing could use a NO HOLDS (or cheats) BARRED tournament, promoted by Don King...

Yellow Mist, Tito's (and Margachetodorito's) plaster wraps, red bull in the corner, along with some ben-gay...all in a spiked ring with Sabu, Abdullah the Butcher and Mick Foley as judges and...well need a half-blind, senile, comic relief referee...JOE CORTEZ!!!

**Rebel** · September 19th, 2011, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by K.I.P.

I think boxing could use a NO HOLDS (or cheats) BARRED tournament, promoted by Don King...

Yellow Mist, Tito's (and Margachetodorito's) plaster wraps, red bull in the corner, along with some ben-gay...all in a spiked ring with Sabu, Abdullah the Butcher and Mick Foley as judges and...well need a half-blind, senile, comic relief referee...JOE CORTEZ!!!

If boxing assumed MMA rules for one day, even a mental midget like Ortiz would ragdoll Mayweather on the ground.

**Michael Matos** · September 19th, 2011, 07:32 PM

Tickets for this go on sale at midnght. Looks like ringside is $600 and down to $100. Might just go to this.

**Victor** · September 21st, 2011, 04:04 AM

After seeing Cotto/Mayorga, I'm almost leaning towards Margarito for this fight.

My gut is telling me that Cotto is going to win a decision due to inactivity from Margarito, but it really comes down to Cottos mental state.

**The Hitman** · September 21st, 2011, 08:27 AM

I have lots of thoughts on this - not many of them that intelligent.

I am a huge fan of Cotto (don't know why?) was supremely disappointed when he lost the first time, don't know if there has been a fight i wanted someone to win more than this since Santos, Sahaprom and Lennox last fought.

Cotto has to win this fight.

Sadly, unless Pacquiao really really really damaged Marg, I get the feeling Margarita will be able to repeat his performance one way or another. Maybe not quite as grotesquely, but he is bigger and stronger than Cotto and Cotto's tendency to wear down late in fights has been fairly well pronounced (despite the bizarre late KO vs. Mayorga).

I am rooting big for Cotto here. This is my biggest fight of the year. Havent been into a fight this much since probably the first Cotto-Marg fight (excluding all Santos fights, of course)

**Rebel** · September 21st, 2011, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Hitman

I have lots of thoughts on this - not many of them that intelligent.

Rebel - why would youask if anyone cares about this? Any boxing fan should care a lot about this fight imo.

I am a huge fan of Cotto (don't know why?) was supremely disappointed when he lost the first time, don't know if there has been a fight i wanted someone to win more than this since Santos, Sahaprom and Lennox last fought.

Cotto has to win this fight.

Sadly, unless Pacquiao really really really damaged Marg, I get the feeling Margarita will be able to repeat his performance one way or another. Maybe not quite as grotesquely, but he is bigger and stronger than Cotto and Cotto's tendency to wear down late in fights has been fairly well pronounced (despite the bizarre late KO vs. Mayorga).

I am rooting big for Cotto here. This is my biggest fight of the year. Havent been into a fight this much since probably the first Cotto-Marg fight (excluding all Santos fights, of course)

I posed that question considering the notion that most boxing fans no longer want to see Margarito in a boxing ring ever again. Apparently, many fans still want to see him take another beating.

I'm with you. It would be justice if Cotto were to win, but my gut tells me Margarito will break him down late again.