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    Post Mayweather vs. Cotto, Alvarez vs. Mosley (May 5)

    Done deal. Props to Floyd for fighting Cotto at 154.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe King View Post
    Done deal. Props to Floyd for fighting Cotto at 154.
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    This announcement likely confirms the Pac/Bradley, JMM/Peterson, mini-tourney. I'm just glad we're going to see some new matchups.

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    I'll take it. And I agree I'm glad it's at 154 and not some bullshit catchweight. Cotto just said fuck you Bob Arum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El tanke View Post
    PBF UD 116-112
    That's my early prediction too. But I'm hoping Cotto brings the heat downstairs to Mayweather and makes it interesting. Come on Cotto!

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    These guys are going to make a ton of money for this. I don't see how this fight could be boring.

    The two other proposed dance partners out in the cold should fight now too. Ortiz vs. Khan
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    PBF by ko in round 9
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    Quote Originally Posted by zboxz View Post
    PBF by ko in round 9
    Sounds about right.
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    Yawn. Not really interested in this one. What's Mayweather doing fighting Pac's leftover's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Matos View Post
    Sounds about right.
    Yeah, not that excited about this match right now. 3-4 years ago might have been a different story but Cotto seems pretty on the downslide. Not quite over, but on his way. He also was never a huge puncher. I see this as a wide UD for Floyd or possible late stoppage. My 2c

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Yeah, not that excited about this match right now. 3-4 years ago might have been a different story but Cotto seems pretty on the downslide. Not quite over, but on his way. He also was never a huge puncher. I see this as a wide UD for Floyd or possible late stoppage. My 2c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Yeah, not that excited about this match right now. 3-4 years ago might have been a different story but Cotto seems pretty on the downslide. Not quite over, but on his way. He also was never a huge puncher. I see this as a wide UD for Floyd or possible late stoppage. My 2c
    Never a huge puncher? I beg to differ.

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    Cotto's never been a big puncher, he's always been more of an accumulation guy. Regardless, it's a pretty good fight, I look forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey83 View Post
    Never a huge puncher? I beg to differ.
    I agree and disagree. At 140 he was a devastating puncher that KO'd guys in spectacular fashion. At 147 he didn't carry it up as much. He landed great shots on Mosley and Margarito but never really had them in big trouble but those guys are known for having great chins. Same for Malignaggi. His KO's of Judah, Gomez and Quintana were more due to an accumulation of punches.

    At 154 I think it still remains to be seen how big his punching power is. I think he finished Yuri Foreman with body shots and of course Foreman's bum knee. Mayorga used to have a good chin but I think the wars have caught up to him. Cotto didn't really have him hurt until the final round. And of course the Margarito fight he was still coming forward even though Cotto was busting his face up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O-Dogg33 View Post
    I agree and disagree. At 140 he was a devastating puncher that KO'd guys in spectacular fashion. At 147 he didn't carry it up as much. He landed great shots on Mosley and Margarito but never really had them in big trouble but those guys are known for having great chins. Same for Malignaggi. His KO's of Judah, Gomez and Quintana were more due to an accumulation of punches.

    At 154 I think it still remains to be seen how big his punching power is. I think he finished Yuri Foreman with body shots and of course Foreman's bum knee. Mayorga used to have a good chin but I think the wars have caught up to him. Cotto didn't really have him hurt until the final round. And of course the Margarito fight he was still coming forward even though Cotto was busting his face up.

    I agree with your assessment, except for the part about the knee. I think it was just Foreman's way to try and look like less of a pussy.

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    I think too many are focusing on whether Cotto is a big puncher or not. Even that punch that doesn't KO you, can hurt you or get your respect enough to fight differently.

    I think this fight may not be a walk in the park for Mayweather. Not that Floyd can't win, but I don't know if it will be complete domination like Pacman's was. Pac and May fight differently where Pac overwhelms from the outset and throughout. Floyd paces and picks his spots which allow his opponents to be in the fight longer for more of a chance. What Floyd does well though is stick to that pace and comfort level without departing and goes on to win.

    I think Cotto will make some interesting spots early and even in the middle of the fight. Then I think Floyd will relax more and start to swell up Cotto's face a bit. Cotto may not be discouraged and still see the final bell, but not doing enough to win. Cotto's recently fought Pac, Foreman, Mayorga and Margarito. Three of those guys really bring it and put on the pressure. Floyd sometimes applies pressure these days, but nothing like Pac and Margarito. So I expect Cotto to be able to box with Floyd a bit like he did with Mosley, but he will probably always (prime or not) have been a step behind Floyd.

    Mayweather UD Cotto 116-112 - 115-113 - 117-113 ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyrantT316 View Post
    I think too many are focusing on whether Cotto is a big puncher or not. Even that punch that doesn't KO you, can hurt you or get your respect enough to fight differently.

    I think this fight may not be a walk in the park for Mayweather. Not that Floyd can't win, but I don't know if it will be complete domination like Pacman's was. Pac and May fight differently where Pac overwhelms from the outset and throughout. Floyd paces and picks his spots which allow his opponents to be in the fight longer for more of a chance. What Floyd does well though is stick to that pace and comfort level without departing and goes on to win.

    I think Cotto will make some interesting spots early and even in the middle of the fight. Then I think Floyd will relax more and start to swell up Cotto's face a bit. Cotto may not be discouraged and still see the final bell, but not doing enough to win. Cotto's recently fought Pac, Foreman, Mayorga and Margarito. Three of those guys really bring it and put on the pressure. Floyd sometimes applies pressure these days, but nothing like Pac and Margarito. So I expect Cotto to be able to box with Floyd a bit like he did with Mosley, but he will probably always (prime or not) have been a step behind Floyd.

    Mayweather UD Cotto 116-112 - 115-113 - 117-113 ish.

    Good analysis, most of Cotto's recent opponents came at him and pressured him, but he does have good boxing skills. He has a fighting chance against Mayweather, he is not a HUGE puncher, but he does hit hard enough to hurt Mayweather and this bout will tell us if he has the boxing skills to actually land such a punch. Floyd's defense probably takes him to a decision win, but Cotto might just surprise us.

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    Highly doubt scores would be that close, dont see them being closer than 117 - 111, cotto will be lucky to win 3 rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey83 View Post
    Highly doubt scores would be that close, dont see them being closer than 117 - 111, cotto will be lucky to win 3 rounds.
    Maybe.

    Mayweather has looked completely dominant against highly skilled fighters before, such as Marquez, saavy boxers, such as Genaro Hernandez when Mayweather was just becoming a star, and precision punchers like Diego Corrales, and of course decent boxers with speed in Mosley and Judah.

    I don't think Cotto is shot, past his prime, yes, but shot....not yet. He is still a good figher, bigger than Marquez, better than the version of Mosley that Mayweather fought. I think Cotto is going to make it a good fight. Damn, I can't wait for this fight.

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    Canelo vs Mosley on the undercard. Awesome card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe King View Post
    Canelo vs Mosley on the undercard. Awesome card.
    Mosley, the 40 year old has been, who hasnt won a single fight in over 3 years and fights at the welterweight limit? Oh yeah baby, hes worthy of yet ANOTHER title shot, this time at 154 lbs. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by El tanke View Post
    Mosley, the 40 year old has been, who hasnt won a single fight in over 3 years and fights at the welterweight limit? Oh yeah baby, hes worthy of yet ANOTHER title shot, this time at 154 lbs. LOL
    It would be funny if he beat canelo but wouldnt it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey83 View Post
    It would be funny if he beat canelo but wouldnt it?
    Hey, you never know. Canelo's worst attribute is speed. Remember what Mosley did to Margarito!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe King View Post
    Canelo vs Mosley on the undercard. Awesome card.
    I'm more interested in that fight then I am the main event.

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    Alavarez vs Mosely will be the sad end to a career of a fighter once touted as the best boxer since Sugar Ray Robinson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Matos View Post
    Alavarez vs Mosely will be the sad end to a career of a fighter once touted as the best boxer since Sugar Ray Robinson.

    And then Alvarez will probably get Zab Judah or Randall Bailey at 154 lbs.
    Thats what he loves to fight right? Old, has beens who are at the tail end of their careers and to top it off, smaller than him.
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    I hope Cotto stretches him. I doubt it, but it would be poetic justice.

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    Expensive fight. Tickets start at I believe 300 and ringside is 1500. Hope Cotto makes a lot of money! Mayweather will blow his or owes his anyway...Ringo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringside View Post
    Expensive fight. Tickets start at I believe 300 and ringside is 1500. Hope Cotto makes a lot of money! Mayweather will blow his or owes his anyway...Ringo
    How much of a chance do you give Cotto in this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark G View Post
    How much of a chance do you give Cotto in this one?
    Not much, i think cotto is perfect for mayweather to dominate to an easy UD.

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