UFC on Fox 2 (January 28, 2012) - Evans vs. Davis, Sonnen vs. Bisping

[Rebel]

Main Event on Fox

Rashad Evans vs. Phil Davis (light heavyweights)
Chael Sonnen vs. Michael Bisping (middleweights)
Demian Maia vs. Chris Weidman (middleweights)

Preliminary Card (Fuel TV)

Evan Dunham vs. Nik Lentz (lightweights)
Mike Russow vs. John-Olav Einemo (heavyweights)
Johnny Bedford vs. Mitch Gagnon (bantamweights)
Cub Swanson vs. George Roop (featherweights)
Charles Oliveira vs. Eric Wisely (featherweights)
Michael Johnson vs. Shane Roller (lightweights)

[Rebel]

The best fight card of the year so far and it's FREE on FOX this Saturday!

The only fight I see as a lock on the main card is Sonnen over Bisbing. The others are too close to call which makes this card very interesting.

[TFK]

I don't see Sonnen as any kind of lock. He is ridiculously overated because he happened to have his best day the same time Anderson Silva had his worst. But look at the facts. He's only 4-2 since coming back to the UFC. His submission of Stann in his last fight was the first fight he's won by sub or KO since 2007, and he is still very vulnerable to getting submitted.

Now, Bisping is by no means an elite fighter, but neither is Sonnen. Bisping has an excellent chance of beating Sonnen.

TFK

[Rebel]

I don't see Sonnen as any kind of lock. He is ridiculously overated because he happened to have his best day the same time Anderson Silva had his worst. But look at the facts. He's only 4-2 since coming back to the UFC. His submission of Stann in his last fight was the first fight he's won by sub or KO since 2007, and he is still very vulnerable to getting submitted.

Now, Bisping is by no means an elite fighter, but neither is Sonnen. Bisping has an excellent chance of beating Sonnen.

TFK

He is a lock and the odds support my view. Bisping is the one who is greatly overrated.

At middleweight, Sonnen is no worse than the #2-3 fighter. Who's better? Belfort who got destroyed by Silva or Munoz who couldn't stay healthy? Love him or hate him, Sonnen deserves to be up there, for the time being.

[TLC]

I'm sure Hashad wins.

Weidman should beat a very average Demian Maia.


Sonnen should win but won't surprise if he gets caught in a triangle or some other tomfoolery.

[TFK]

He is a lock and the odds support my view. Bisping is the one who is greatly overrated.

At middleweight, Sonnen is no worse than the #2-3 fighter. Who's better? Belfort who got destroyed by Silva or Munoz who couldn't stay healthy? Love him or hate him, Sonnen deserves to be up there, for the time being.

I don't think anyone overates Bisping. Nobody considers him an elite fighter, or close to it, but he is always near the top of the card because it makes good business sense for a company that's trying to grow in Europe.

I would pick both Munoz and Belfort over Sonnnen. He's already lost to Silva and Maia. I think Palhares would beat him too.

Anyway, I'm kind of hoping Sonnen wins, because that would set up a Megafight in Brazil against Silva, most likely in a soccer stadium which would draw the biggest crowd in MMA history. Of course, I don't see Sonnen making it out of the 1st in that fight.

TFK

[Trplsec]

The only guys to beat Sonnen over the last 5 years have been very solid BJJ black belts. Filho, at the time, and Maia are as good as it gets. Silva isn't too shabby either.
That being said, guys like Dan Miller and Nate Marquardt are also BJJ black belts and weren't able submit Sonnen.

The truth is, Bisping doesn't have the credentials of any of those guys and shouldn't threaten Sonnen at all. And he really doesn't have the punching power to hurt Sonnen.

If Bisping thwarts Sonnen's take downs, his take down defense has to be considered among the best in the game. I don't think he will.

[Rebel]

If Bisping thwarts Sonnen's take downs, his take down defense has to be considered among the best in the game. I don't think he will.

Bisping is more likely to hook up with Arianny Celeste.

[Joe King]

Bisping is more likely to hook up with Arianny Celeste.

She's too busy with Tiki and Lorenzo Fertitta

[Rebel]

She's too busy with Tiki and Lorenzo Fertitta

I've read that a few times. Even if that's true, they hooked up with Roger Huerta's leftovers! haha

[Joe King]

I've read that a few times. Even if that's true, they hooked up with Roger Huerta's leftovers! haha

I'm sure Lorenzo had first dibs lol

[Rebel]

It wouldn't surprise me. Nevertheless, Arianny leftovers are still high quality, right? haha

[Laztrooper]

That's a set of leftovers i'd like to get my hands on.

[R_jay]

I can't see Bisping staying on his feet. Sonnen's wrestling is extremely good and always has been, it's the submission guys that have beat him and Bisping isn't one of them. I think Bisping gets taken down, gets back up, taken down again, and spends most of the fight taking mild punishment from the guard and loses a decision.

[Rebel]

Weidman wins a SD over Maia.

Bisping surprises and does much better than anticipated. I thought Sonnen barely won but wouldn't have complained about a Draw. Sonnen is awarded a UD, and in his post-fight interview once against shows how delusional he is. I now feel Silva will likely KO him in their rematch.

Evans vs. Davis up next.

[Laztrooper]

Weak. I though Bisping won the first two rounds. 30-27??? Bullshit!!

At least now Silva will get the pleasure of pounding his ass.

[TLC]

Sonnen is VERY overrated.

[Laztrooper]

Weidman wins a SD over Maia.

Bisping surprises and does much better than anticipated. That fight probably should've been deemed a Draw. Sonnen is awarded a UD.

Draw or Bisping SD would have been good IMO. Sonnen only won round 3 IMO. Rounds 1 was close but, I felt Bisping was actually landing shots and doing damage in rounds 1 & 2 while Sonnen was basically trying to win by smothering him but, without landing any shots. Once he figured out it wasn't working he took it to the ground and kept it there to secure the 3rd round.

[R_jay]

Silva will get the pleasure of pounding his ass.

Probably not the best turn of phrase.

[Rebel]

Weak. I though Bisping won the first two rounds. 30-27??? Bullshit!!

At least now Silva will get the pleasure of pounding his ass.

I thought Sonnen won the first and third, but I was left totally unimpressed.

[Rebel]

Sonnen is VERY overrated.

Totally agree. His bite doesn't match his loud ass bark.

[Rebel]

Rashad should have the UD in the bag. Good learning experience for Davis. I knew he would lose, but was pulling for him since he's based out of my hometown of Chula Vista, CA, along with Dominick Cruz.

[10 count]

How the hell did 1 judge give it to Maia?

[Mexican Eagle]

Draw or Bisping SD would have been good IMO. Sonnen only won round 3 IMO. Rounds 1 was close but, I felt Bisping was actually landing shots and doing damage in rounds 1 & 2 while Sonnen was basically trying to win by smothering him but, without landing any shots. Once he figured out it wasn't working he took it to the ground and kept it there to secure the 3rd round.

I watched this fight with my girlfriend and this is coming from a casual MMA fan she thinks it was a bullshit decision.

Let me ask you this, what would potentially more money? Sonnen Vs Silva or Silva Vs Bisping? Sonnen has been running his mouth so much you know Dana White wasn't gonna let this rematch slip away. It seems like those score cards were already scored before the fight ever started. I had Bisping winning. Sonnen didn't impress me with his dirty tactics. The guy never took control of the fight except in the final rounds when he "almost" choked Bisping out. Other than that Bisping was more effective with his flurries. A better striker than Sonnen by far. Fuck the UFC is just as fixed as boxing.

[10 count]

I watched this fight with my girlfriend and this is coming from a casual MMA fan she thinks it was a bullshit decision.

Let me ask you this, what would potentially more money? Sonnen Vs Silva or Silva Vs Bisping? Sonnen has been running his mouth so much you know Dana White wasn't gonna let this rematch slip away. It seems like those score cards were already scored before the fight ever started. I had Bisping winning. Sonnen didn't impress me with his dirty


tactics. The guy never took control of the fight except in the final rounds when he "almost" choked Bisping out. Other than that Bisping was more effective with his flurries. A better striker than Sonnen by far. Fuck the UFC is just as fixed as boxing.

This is the problem when one guy holds so much power in an org that has no competition. If everyone does as DW/Fertittas say.

They want to keep their investments safe. Would you be suprised if you find out in the future that Vitor and Forrest took a dive vs. Silva? Both looked very suspect.

[Trplsec]

This is the problem when one guy holds so much power in an org that has no competition. If everyone does as DW/Fertittas say.

They want to keep their investments safe. Would you be suprised if you find out in the future that Vitor and Forrest took a dive vs. Silva? Both looked very suspect.

LOL... The Belfort KO looked suspect? And if Griffin took a dive, he's the worst actor in history and makes Keanu Reeves look like Olivier.

Personally I thought Sonnen landed the cleaner, harder shots in the stand-up as well. It was a dismal performance by both guys but Bisping is just non-threatening in every aspect of MMA. He can't bust a grape with his punches. He has zero offensive wrestling. And didn't threaten at all from his back.

[TFK]

Glad to see you guys are coming around to what I've been saying all along, that Sonnen is ridiculously overrated.

And his Poor Man's Rock Promo at the end of the fight was even more ridiculous considering he just got a gift decision over Bisping.

TFK

[Laztrooper]

I thought Sonnen won the first and third, but I was left totally unimpressed.

I can see why you gave him the 3rd but, the first I have to give to Bisping. For the first half of that round Sonnen was putting on pressure trying to smothering Bisping on the fence but, not doing any damage or doing anything significant. Bisping on the other hand won the second half of the round but, did so by actually landing punches and some good knees to the body. The Next two rounds were pretty clear IMO with Bisping winning round 2 and Sonnen round three. What bothers me most is one of the judges scored the fight 3-0 Sonnen.

[10 count]

LOL... The Belfort KO looked suspect? And if Griffin took a dive, he's the worst actor in history and makes Keanu Reeves look like Olivier.

Personally I thought Sonnen landed the cleaner, harder shots in the stand-up as well. It was a dismal performance by both guys but Bisping is just non-threatening in every aspect of MMA. He can't bust a grape with his punches. He has zero offensive wrestling. And didn't threaten at all from his back.

Yes, it did look suspect. Any why was Griffin such a bad actor? Because he fell from a grazing shot and just laid there with one eye open like Sonny Liston while Dana gave him the thumbs up?

[TFK]

What bothers me most is one of the judges scored the fight 3-0 Sonnen.

The look on Bisping's face when the 30-27 score was announced said it all. He knew he was getting robbed.

TFK